Irish Mountain
Running Association

Nav. Challenge Maps- Expression of Interest.

AuthorDateMessage
Clare KeeleyJul 26 2019, 12:09amThe Nav. Challenge is returning to the earlier version where runners have to supply their own maps. This will require quite an outlay for anyone doing all races as each race requires a different map. Barry Dalby from East West Mapping has agreed a sale or return for the maps for the three Nav. Challenges (with thanks to Gaven and Joe!). Barry is offering to supply the maps at 66% of retail price. It is hoped that the maps will be sold via “purchase item” in the IMRA shop for a defined period of time. The three maps required for the Nav. Challenge this year are Lugnaquilla & Glendalough 25k, Dublin Mountains 30k and West Wicklow 30k. This forum post is to get an idea how many runners competing in the Nav.Challenge races would be interested in the deal to gauge how many maps we might need?? What do you all think??!! Clare.
Graham K. BusheJul 26 2019, 12:28amHi Clare, count me in for a set please. This is a great idea and offer, thanks. Graham
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 7:10amA great initiative. I think my maps are latest stock but must check.

Creating interest list:-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
John CondonJul 26 2019, 8:37amHi Clare, Can you put me down for the Dublin Mountains and West Wicklow? Thanks.
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 10:31amCreating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
Dave DochertyJul 26 2019, 10:33amI probably won't make the races but would like to own a set of maps. What's the cost roughly ish?
Avril ChallonerJul 26 2019, 11:00amdon't think I can make all the challenges (hoping to make at least one) but my maps have had some weather related wear and tear so would be interested in a full shiny new set.
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 11:44amAs an example, the tetail price of an un-laminated map is 12.50. IMRA rate is likely to be c 8.25
If we supplied the maps at our event we can save on P&P costs. Otherwise P&P costs would need to be added.
Justin ReaJul 26 2019, 11:56amCreating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
Jenny LawlerJul 26 2019, 12:58pmCreating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
Rory WallaceJul 26 2019, 2:59pm12:58pm Creating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminated
John MurrayJul 26 2019, 3:28pmCreating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
Avril ChallonerJul 26 2019, 3:48pmCreating interest list (add name and map(s) :-
1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated)
Clare KeeleyJul 26 2019, 4:24pmGreat to see the interest!
This post on the forum is to gauge the interest only, runners will have to order "item for purchase" (if there is adequate interest)when it goes live.

Lugnaquilla & Glendalough 30k LAMINATED version €19.50 with 66% discount = €12.87.

Lugnaquilla & Glendalough 30k PAPER version €12.50 with 66% discount €8.25

Wicklow Mountains West 30k PAPER ONLY version available €9.95 with 66% discount €6.57

Dublin and North Wicklow 30k PAPER ONLY version available €9.95 with 66% discount €6.57.

John Condon-you are getting a string to tie yours around your neck so it doesn't blow away on you...I want to get home for my dinner!!
Christopher WilloughbyJul 26 2019, 5:38pm1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated)
Dave DochertyJul 26 2019, 6:02pm5:38pm1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated)
Dave DochertyJul 26 2019, 6:02pm5:38pm1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated)
Clare KeeleyJul 26 2019, 6:12pm**EDIT re:price of maps**
Dublin Mts and Wicklow West €7 each sold separately
Lugnaquilla/Glendalough laminated €14
Collectively as a set €28.00.
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 6:14pmAs per Clare's post, we have clarified that only the L/G map comes in a laminated option at the moment.

Assuming suitable interest - and we'd need more names to make this worthwhile (so keeping adding) - we can add the maps to the purchase option and we should look to provide them at the nav races OR to a friend of theirs who is going to the Navs - to avoid having to layer on P&P costs.
Linda RowdenJul 26 2019, 6:15pmLinda Rowden - Lugnaquilla/Glendalough - Laminated
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 6:21pmOrder list. Copy and paste and add your order.
- Unless specified we assume the Lug/Glendalough map is unlaminated. The other 2 only come unlaminated.

1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminated L/G)
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
Lillian DeeganJul 26 2019, 6:24pm.
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Thanks for taking this one on Clare and Mick. It's super helpful.

1. Graham Bushe - full set
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminate
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated)
10. Linda Rowen - Lugnaquilla/ Gelndalough - Laminated
11. Lillian Deegan - full set.
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Brendan LawlorJul 26 2019, 6:30pmThis is a fantastic idea and a super offer. Whether you plan to do the Nav Challenge races or not it is well worth investing in some or all of these maps, which are excellent. Even novice and beginner hill runners can benefit from an occasional look at a real map.. Google doesn't hack it in the hills!

Its still no guarantee you won't get lost however ... :)
Mick HanneyJul 26 2019, 6:42pmOrder list. Copy and paste and add your order.
- Unless specified we assume the Lug/Glendalough map is unlaminated. The other 2 only come unlaminated.

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminated L/G)
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
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John BellJul 26 2019, 8:40pmOrder list. Copy and paste and add your order.
- Unless specified we assume the Lug/Glendalough map is unlaminated. The other 2 only come unlaminated.

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. West Wiclkow laminated L/G)
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
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Gareth LittleJul 26 2019, 9:50pmBarry’s maps are second to none folks. This is a brilliant price too so I’d recommend jumping in on this deal!
Rory WallaceJul 26 2019, 9:52pm1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
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Paul SmythJul 26 2019, 11:49pm1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
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Alice ClancyJul 27 2019, 2:48amThanks all for organising, this is great!

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
14. Alice Clancy - full set (laminated L/G)
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Stephen BrennanJul 27 2019, 8:02am1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
14. Alice Clancy - full set (laminated L/G)
15.Stephen Brennan - full set (laminated L/G)
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Mick HanneyJul 27 2019, 8:10amHi,

We have established that the interest is there in this initiative, so I have asked the webmaster to add the maps on as purchase items for a few weeks. I'll post as soon as that is done. People will be able to select the maps they want.

Regards,

Mick
Patrik AlbertssonJul 27 2019, 9:10amThanks all for organising, this is great!

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
14. Alice Clancy - full set (laminated L/G)
15.Patrik Albertsson
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Jarlath HynesJul 27 2019, 2:12pmThanks all for organising, this is great!

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
14. Alice Clancy - full set (laminated L/G)
15. Patrik Albertsson
16. Jarlath Hynes - full set
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Linda O'ConnorJul 28 2019, 6:39pmThanks very much for organising, I've added my name below.

1. Graham Bushe - full set (laminated L/G)
2. John Condon - Dublin Mountains & West Wicklow
3. Justin Rea - full set (laminated L/G)
4. Jenny Lawler - full set (laminated L/G)
5. Rory Wallace. Only West Wicklow.
6. John Murray - 2 x full set (laminated L/G)
7. Avril Challoner full set (laminated L/G)
8. Chris Willoughby full set (laminated L/G)
9. Dave Docherty- full set (laminated L/G)
10. Linda Rowden Lug/Glendalough (laminated)
11. Lillian Deegan - full set (laminated L/G)
12. John Bell - full set (laminated L/G)
13. Paul Smyth - full set.
14. Alice Clancy - full set (laminated L/G)
15. Patrik Albertsson
16. Jarlath Hynes - full set
17. Linda O'Connor - full set (laminated L/G)
Mick HanneyJul 28 2019, 7:40pmHi Folks,

You can stop adding names to the list as we have established that there is a strong interest for this. Thanks to the committee for facilitating this initiative. Each of the maps are available to purchase on the IMRA Purchase products, once you log into MyIMRA. I will collate the orders and deliver them to the Nav events. If people cannot make a Nav event or if they don't have someone to collect for them, let me know as we'll have to organise p&p (additional charge may apply).

Cheers.

Mick
Mick HanneyJul 30 2019, 1:27pmThanks to those that have bought already. I'd encourage others to get your purchases of maps in early. The earlier I get a feel for orders coming in the earlier I can forecast demand and get stock in. If I can do that I can try get them to people at earlier events in person.

Still waiting for the Lug/Glendalough non-laminated map to be added to shop for those who want that.
Brian WynneJul 30 2019, 6:42pmIs it limited to one full set per person? Doesn't appear to give an option for two.
Rory WallaceJul 30 2019, 6:56pmThanks mick but I may just collect from local bookshop to make things easier this summer.
btw the East West map series is well recommended, much better than harveys or sheet 56.
Mick HanneyJul 30 2019, 7:59pmIt wouldn't have occurred to me that some people would want more than 1 of a type. In any event the purchase option with IMRA for any item - map or event - is limited to 1 per myimra login I'm afraid. Others can log in and buy their own?
Paul SmythJul 30 2019, 8:20pmI've bought race vouchers twice this year and they are listed as the same item so I'm presuming there is an option on the items for sale that allows specifying whether an item can be purchased more than once?
Paul SmythJul 30 2019, 8:26pmOn a related note... It's potentially confusing having the words 'Event Entry' on the map purchase items. someone is sure to think they are purchasing an entry to the event rather than just the map or might think that the map purchase also includes the event entry. Might be better to edit the item to remove the words 'Event Entry'.
Brian WynneJul 30 2019, 8:29pmI was thinking of getting a gift of the maps for a fellow IMRA member as well as my own set but no big deal. Didn't see any option for ordering two of each.
Mick HanneyJul 31 2019, 9:57am@Paul - I agree the wording is confusing. I have asked the webmaster to change it from Race Entry to Map in all cases. Thanks.
Stuart ScottJul 31 2019, 10:30amBrian, can you do a separate transaction for each map? I think that was what Paul was alluding to with the race vouchers.

Well done to all involved with this excellent venture, not least Barry Dalby for his support of IMRA over the years. Could the committee purchase a few to use as spot prizes in future races too? It's something every IMRA member should have in their pocket!
John J BarryJul 31 2019, 2:15pmagree 100% with Start regarding Spot Prizes. I 'won' the Glendalough map last week which I was delighted with. It will be put to great use..
Mick HanneyAug 2 2019, 8:13amPlenty of interest in the maps. Thanks for the early orders. I'm going to try take delivery of stock early for early distribution if and when I can.
John CondonAug 2 2019, 9:59amHi Mick, had a look on the purchase page. It says the Unlaminated Lug map is sold out. Are we getting more stock?
Mick HanneyAug 2 2019, 11:18amHi,

I thought for a sec that Paul had bought all the stock ;-)

I'll get that sorted.

Regards,

Mick
Mick HanneyAug 2 2019, 11:29amThe webmaster sorted this John, should be available for you. Make sure you hold onto it tightly!
Paul SmythAug 2 2019, 11:42amHey! I only bought one - at least I think I only bought one. :)
Andrew HanneyAug 2 2019, 11:50amJohn, sure you must know every inch of Lug at this stage ;)
John CondonAug 2 2019, 12:41pmThanks for the painful reminder there lads ;)
Mick HanneyAug 2 2019, 6:02pmI have taken delivery of a batch of maps. I intend being at the next few races so if you have purchased look out for me.

Given the demand I will likely have to restock but I have enough to be getting on with.
Shane LynchAug 3 2019, 3:44pmFor anyone receiving the paper maps before the day of the Nav Challenges - I have found that carefully covering the map on both sides with clear contact book film works really well for waterproofing.
At the Nav challenges - A good pen to mark on the checkpoints onto the map is a permanent red fine tip, staedtler makes a good one - hopefully this is helpful to one or two reading!
henry barryAug 12 2019, 5:32pmHi ,
What are the options for collecting maps before the first nav challenge . i probably wont make any imra events this week .
Thanks
Henry
Mick HanneyAug 12 2019, 6:41pmHi,

I have some maps on hand but I'm waiting for the shop to close the sale of the maps at the end of this week to get the rest of the order fulfilled, in which case I'll be well stocked up Weds week.

I'll be at the race this Weds with what I have, first come first serve. If people want others to collect them for them that's fine too.

Regards,

Mick
Mick HanneyAug 13 2019, 3:40pmI'll have a stock of maps with me on Weds. So you can collect or get a friend to collect.

For logistical reasons I've had to cap the no. maps sold. Its been a very popular initiative with an avg of 30 maps sold for each of the navs. Some of the Lug unlaminated maps available as of now.
Mick HanneySep 8 2019, 7:12pmDrumgoff next week is last chance for a while for any remaining purchased maps to be picked up.